12/29/2019 at 9:33 am #72225
I researched this brand and it seems to be a popular one from the 60s and 70s. I believe there are different “grades” for guitars but I am no expert. Do we have any guitar experts on the forum?
What does 10F mean?
Is Shinano a very special brand or just your run of the mill brand?
Any research advice?
Any price point advice?
Thank you in advance! Wishing you all a very happy new year!
12/29/2019 at 10:33 am #72227MDC Galleries & Fine ArtParticipant
- Location: Atlanta
Check out this Worthpoint Link and also their is a ton of information on various models on Google as well as several videos.
The price points on the Worthpoint ones for the model SC-30 runs from $175 to $269 but if the number you mention 10F is a model number as it says on your label, then that is probably a different model, but the prices for the SC-30 would make me want to chase down your model number.
Also Google top 100 classical guitars. The Shanano is not in the top ten list is what I Googled.
Think you will hit pay dirt if you spend some more time searching on Google, Classical guitars under $500, student grade classical guitars, of course Shinano. Maybe even call or contact Shinano themselves if still in business.
Mike at MDC galleries
12/29/2019 at 2:22 pm #72235
Mike, thank you as always for the excellent feedback. Very helpful and greatly appreciated.
There is a website called reverb.com that has a lot of good info. The model number is the part that is difficult to understand. There is not a clear system that I can tell.
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12/29/2019 at 6:07 pm #72245MDC Galleries & Fine ArtParticipant
- Location: Atlanta
Here is another idea for you. I noticed you are missing a middle string. I suggest taking it to a instrument shop where they sell guitars and ask for the string to be replaced. That shouldn’t cost much plus will increase the sales price somewhat.
Tell them it is going to be a gift for a niece or nephew and you want to get the string replace and get it tuned. BUT while you are there and talking with them ask about it, dig for information. Is it a good choice for a student, will the neck warp, is it an OK grade for a beginner. Just play dumb but interested that as an aunt you don’t want to give the kid something that he will be embarrassed to start taking guitar lessons with. Maybe even ask them if they offer guitar lessons and the price. i bet they will dump their guts out on the quality of the guitar if they think you may be a future customer for the kid’s lesson’s, as a fantastic and proud Aunt or Grandmother should be. LOL :-), Try it, it may work. Who knows, it may be a great “Classical Guitar”, which Shinano seems to make.
mike at MDCGFA
12/30/2019 at 7:58 am #72252
Not sure where you live but old style guitar shops have been replaced by Guitar Centers, try and find a ‘luthier’ shop.
The D string is missing, classical guitars are a little more difficult to restring as they are knotted so have the shop do it and have them access the action (space between strings and frets and use that in your description.
Also find the double box for shipping guitars, you’ll need some of that thin foam wrap as well to keep it from getting scratched, best if it has a case.
I’ve sold many guitars on eBay as well as managing a music store in the eighties.
Here is one I just listed as a partial guide-
12/30/2019 at 10:46 am #72261
Thank you very much for the feedback and advise.
I am in Los Angeles. Looking on line now and I see a luthier shop not too far.
The guitar comes with its case. Do you box the case when you ship? I assume you would so as not to damage the case.
What is your guess as to cost of restringing the guitar? I will call the shop but just wanted to see if you had an idea.
Thanks again for all the excellent advice.
12/30/2019 at 3:17 pm #72278
Yes, ship in the case but remember to wrap it in the thin styrofoam fabric and make sure it doesn’t move around in the case, the boxes and wrap can be found in the guitar shop’s recycling bin or ask inside especially after they receive a shipment.
Restringing could be as much as $30-$35, you might just buy a set $6-$10 and include it in the listing, cheaper and much less trouble.
12/30/2019 at 10:48 am #72263
Mike, thank you for the advice… you are too funny. I think I might take the more direct approach as I tend to blush and stammer when I try to fake it.
12/30/2019 at 3:22 pm #72279
Some info glean d for the interwebs
Mr. Seizo Shinano was a very skilled Master Luthier and founded Shinano Guitar Factory in mid-1960s. This guitar was made in late 1960s under supervision of Master Luthier Seizo Shinano. In early 1960s Mr. Shinano was working just as individual luthier competing with other best Japanese luthiers like Sakazo Nakade, Rokutaro Nakade, Sadao Yairi, Masaru Kohno, Seizi Inaba and others. At that time Masaru Kohno wasn’t considered the best Japanese luthier yet. Seizo Shinano established his Guitar Factory Sometime in mid 1960s. This particular guitar was made at this factory.
He has earned my deepest respect for his guitars. Since my first encounter with my first Shinano (SC30) guitar I am constantly on the hunt for these guitars. To be precise for (GS) Grand Shinano and SC series, beyond any doubt very high grade guitars. Models made by this factory in 1960s were from introductory (models 13 to 43) through intermediate (53 to 63) and high end (73 through 93). Models Shinano 73(all solid woods Spruce/Indian Rosewood b/s), Shinano 83 (solid Spruce top, solid Brazilian Rosewood Back, laminated BR sides) and Shinano 93 (all solid woods with Spruce/BR) are greatly respected by Japanese players and considered as concert guitars.
By early 1970s the labelling system of Shinano guitars changed to SC (Shinano Concert) and GS models.
Some info about Shinano guitars:
Instruments previously produced in Japan during the 1960s and 1970s.
Shinano was a trademark and possibly the name of a luthier who built classical guitars in Japan during the 1960s and 1970s. It is reported that Shinano guitars were distributed by Daion, but it is unknown if Shinano guitars were distributed in the U.S. by Daion’s distributor MCI, Inc. in Waco, TX. Shinano guitars appear to built of mid- to high quality, but it is unknown if they were factory or hand-built. Any further information on Shinano can be submitted directly to Blue Book Publications.
The complex story of Yamaki guitars is entwined with the histories of a number of other Japanese companies. In the late 1940s, brothers Yasuyuki and Kazuyuki Teradaira started working for Tatsuno Mokko, an instrument-building firm that later split into two different companies, one of which was called Hayashi Gakki. In 1954 Hayashi Gakki was bought out by Zenon, a large music distributor. In 1962 Yasuyuki left Zenon to start an instrument distributor he called Daion, which means “big sound” in Japanese. In 1967 Kazuyuki left Zenon to produce classical guitars under the name Yamaki, an auspicious Japanese word meaning “happy trees on the mountain.” By the early 1970s, Kazuyuki expanded the Yamaki line to include a large number of steel-string guitars, many of which were based on C.F. Martin and Co.’s designs and were distributed exclusively through Daion. Along with Yamaki guitars, Daion sold instruments from Shinano, Mitsura Tamura, Chaki, and Hamox, some of which were built by Yamaki at various times, and Harptone guitars, which they imported from the US.
12/30/2019 at 3:57 pm #72281
Thank you Steven, BIG help. I did see that article on Jedi or something like that. I submitted a question on the site but got no reply. But your information was super helpful and I appreciate it.
12/30/2019 at 11:50 pm #72296Steves StuffParticipant
- Location: Lakeland, Florida
No offense to earlier “suggestees”, but any music store that sells guitars is going to be able to replace the string for you. It’s no big deal at all and it’s something they see and do all the time. I have several friends who own music stores and I’ve even worked for 3 of them at a total of 4 of their stores. It’s commonplace, routine guitar maintenance.
And there’s no need to tell a story about it being a gift. Believe me, they don’t need a tale to provide the service of string replacement; it’s something they do on a regular basis. You don’t need a reason; the broken/missing string is reason enough and it won’t matter one iota what plans you have for the guitar. They’ll provide the service regardless of your plans.
Just go in and be honest. If they know anything about the brand or can offer any general information, trust me, they’ll be glad to do so.
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12/31/2019 at 6:02 am #72298Antique FrogParticipant
- Location: Leicester
I’ve got a friend who has a longstanding interest in electric guitars and valve amplifiers, so if I see a guitar in a thrift shop or dumped on the street (happens!) I check it out. However having watched some videos on assessment and repairs I realised there’s no way I could successfully buy and resell guitars- too many areas where faults and wear develop. Violins on the other hand- they’re simple, small and usually come in a hard case, and the bows can be valuable on their own.
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