Rug hand knot or machine? - Scavenger Life

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- 02/14/2017 at 3:16 pm #12553
  pickerchick
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  Hi can anyone tell if this is hand knotted or machine made? I am meaning to hand knotted but would like a second opinion. It feels like wool..
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- 02/14/2017 at 3:18 pm #12555
  pickerchick
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  How do I add a photo?
- 02/14/2017 at 3:22 pm #12557
  Ryanne
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  upload to Imgur.com and just paste the url link in, it will auto-embed here.
- 02/14/2017 at 3:22 pm #12558
  shortandstout
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  load the photo to imgur.com then paste the direct link in the message.
- 02/14/2017 at 3:23 pm #12559
  Ryanne
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  @ryanne
  jinx!
- 02/14/2017 at 3:24 pm #12560
  Jay
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  Upload to https://imgur.com/. The post a link here.
- 02/14/2017 at 3:32 pm #12563
  mcgallicher
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  Hand knotted rugs have an extremely tight weave on the underside. Machine knotted rugs – not so much. With a machine knotted rug, if you flip it over, you can grip onto a thread and pull it loose from the rug. You could never do that with a hand-knotted rug.
- 02/14/2017 at 3:35 pm #12564
  Ryanne
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  i’ve seen very tightly woven machine rugs. you really have to see it to decide IMHO
- 02/14/2017 at 8:07 pm #12588
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  https://imgur.com/gallery/lv19P
  
  This is the reverse of the rug
- 02/14/2017 at 9:24 pm #12592
  Ryanne
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  that looks hand knotted to me. machine knotted is much more uniform. hand knotted rugs are worth a lot more. nice find! can we see the whole thing? (rug nerd here)
- 02/15/2017 at 6:06 am #12603
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  Yes I will post full pictures today! You won’t believe this but there are 2 rugs. I found them by a dumpster at my storage unit! The one in the photograph I have not unrolled yet but it looks to be bigger than my living room! The second one is also large and almost has a Native American look. I will post pix today!
- 02/15/2017 at 1:26 pm #12621
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  This is one of the rugs.. it is actually signed in Arabic! I don’t know much about rugs but this is good right?
  
  https://imgur.com/gallery/sCEBI
- 02/15/2017 at 1:28 pm #12622
  pickerchick
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  This is the second rug . The tag says made in Iran !
  
  https://imgur.com/gallery/af3yc
- 02/15/2017 at 2:19 pm #12634
  mcgallicher
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  What a find!!
  
  The first rug is a Bukhara (or Bokhara) pattern. Can you add a photo of the reverse side?
  
  The second one is a Tabriz and is definitely hand-knotted and probably worth some good money since it is large and looks like it is in very nice condition.
- 02/15/2017 at 2:28 pm #12636
  Ryanne
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  those are amazing finds. cannot believe someone was throwing them away. that’s so insane.
- 02/15/2017 at 3:09 pm #12641
  pickerchick
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  I totally agree! I almost feel guilty! Here is the reverse of the signed one.. does anyone know what that signature means? It is un Arabic is it the creators name?
  https://imgur.com/gallery/E7pw1
- 02/15/2017 at 3:10 pm #12642
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  Thank you for the information also Ryanne! I love you guys! You have the best podcast out there!!
- 02/15/2017 at 3:24 pm #12644
  mcgallicher
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  I can’t really see the knots from that photo but it seems to also be hand-knotted.
  
  The signature on the Bokhara could be Arabic or Farsi, depending if it was made in Iran or some other country. The signature does not add significantly to the value, unfortunately. Most rug weavers are illiterate, and the signature is likely the name of the vendor or owner of the factory, which means the rug was probably made in a big city and not some hill tribe somewhere.
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