08/04/2019 at 8:43 am #65835
Kato Kogei Japanese Fujimori Alpha 3 Pottery Vase
This vase was given to me. It is huge and seems problematic to ship and arrive in one piece. Dimensions 10ʺW × 8ʺD × 17.8ʺH
I am asking you experienced sellers if you would bother trying to post on ebay and provide shipping or would you list it as local pick up only?
BTW… My husband and I were out for a bike ride and stopped at a garage sale. We bought a few small items and asked the owners to leave them out by their door and we would grab them on our way back. As we were chatting with the family their dog escaped from their fenced in backyard and my husband caught the pup and kept it from running into traffic. When we returned some hours later, this vase which I had looked at a couple of times was in the bag with the other items we bought. My husband rode home carrying this vase! lol
Anyway, thanks for the information. Liz
08/04/2019 at 10:33 am #65840HistoryNerdParticipant
- Location: PNW
This is really cool! Especially for free.
I think the question of whether you want to ship it comes down to whether you feel like it’s worth the hassle. You can totally ship this – there are some great tips on here about packing fragile items and calculating dimensional weight.
It looks like this could sell for $200+, which to me would be worth all the packing drama. If the going price was $20, then no.
08/04/2019 at 10:42 am #65841
Good Morning: We would list and ship it. For us our largest box and usually our cut off point is 24″ x 18″ x24″. We could ship 2 or these easily in one shipment.
We use our custom “cocoon” method of 7 layers of protective wrapping material and then that complete box would certainly go into a second outer box [double boxed]. But the key is as I just happened to outline here on this forum the other day.
Search Cocoon shipping method and you can see the 6 to 7 layers we use.
This size is most likely a candidate for FedEx also.
Ryanne has shipped large lamps and rolled and folded up rugs before.
But in some cases [ a few-not many], no matter how careful and over protective you are, some things just don’t make the journey to their new home despite all your efforts. If it falls off a conveyor belt or a fork lift and the forklift runs over it, it will be toast regardless. The good thing is the buyer gets disappointed but you get photos from them and file an insurance claim. The buyer gets their money back and you still get paid. A shame, but still you and the buyer are whole.
10 x 8 x 18 is a medium-large size to us, not a “huge” package by any means.
And lastly as Jay has said many times, just get a cost for the FedEx store to pack it for you and build that cost plus some mark up for your time and trouble into your shipping cost.
These are unique items and for the right buyer and or collector the cost of shipping is what it is and are willing to pay for it. You have a very nice vase and will support the costing you place on it.
A simple cocoon process:
2 shts of newsprint wrap, 1 small bubble wrap layer, 1 stretch wrap layer of 4 to 5 winds over the whole object, 1 cardboard rolled sleeve made by cutting a sht of cardboard and pre-rolling it then roll and tape around the object, then a layer of 50# brown kraft paper wrapping it like a Christmas present, then 1 layer of large bubble wrap. It is now looking and feeling like a cocoon at this point of 6 layers. Now place this “cocoon” inside of a box, any box, flat rate, priority, plain generic, it doesn’t matter. Give it 2″ all around and stuff all 4 sides with 50# brown kraft paper. and tape this box up. Now lastly take this box and float it inside a even larger box repeating what you did on the inner box. 1″-2″ space all around and stuffed and supported by 50# crumpled brown kraft paper for dunnage void fill. Tape this outer box up good and tape all box seams. Label it, place on fragile stickers. This now puts you at about 7 to 8 layers if you count the brown kraft dunnage void fill paper, and you are good to go.
We pack better than any of the UPS or FedEx stores we go to. We have shown our process to several FedEx stores and they are amazed at the process.
Caveat’: It does add a little more weight to the overall package, thus the cost somewhat, but worth it to us.
This process has allowed us to ship breakable items up to the size of a small chair through the years. Large lamps, large diameter Tiffany style glass lamp shades, complete dinner sets of 50, 60 pcs and more, and we used to ship pinball machines but that gets into crating and using a furniture carrier, but with a $3,000 machine, as I said, a buyer doesn’t mind $250 to $375 shipping costs.
We have only had about 6-7 or so + breakages since 2002.
* Extra tips to add variation to the packing process.
– Use styrofoam sheets to pad around the voids with crumpled brown kraft as a extra safety barrier against punctures
– Buy 1×2 furring wood strips at HD and have them rip it in half [long ways] into 3/4″ x 3/4″ pcs. then to add resistance against top loaded crushing, bowing or deflection issues just hot glue a piece into each of the four corners of your outer box. Keeps your box from crushing under a lot of weight piled on top
– For very expensive items, use a can of spray foam [open cell] which is soft foam not the brittle type, spray a layer on the bottom of the box, put in your inner box, spray foam fill all 4 sides on the interior, then a layer on the top and close and tape your box.
– Lastly you can also fill void spaces with styro-foam peanuts, but make sure there are no voids where the peanuts can migrate or settle into. After 10 of thousands of bumps and bounces on a road in a truck, peanuts will and do settle on their journey. Years ago we used a vibrator plate to vibrate boxes as we filled them in order to get the peanuts to settle in before closing the box. Personally we no longer use peanuts for several reasons we have previously discussed here on SL. J and R do use them.
Good luck and make sure you search the forum here for the “cocoon” method of packing for maximum protection. All the members have discussed their various packing methods. Also check out the Shipping section of the Forum.
Mike at MDC Galleries and Fine Art in Atlanta
08/04/2019 at 10:52 am #65842
I agree with History Nerd. Cheap price and no but high price yes. We use our cocoon method on all items large or small. A $20 tea cup will still needs to puncture, vibration, pressure, drop protection of “Floating” the item inside.
So to help you out a little further here is a link to one just like yours [an 18″ one] that sold for $129.00
Now, using our pricing strategy, we would price this at $185.00 with make an offer. Especially since you will be putting time into the packaging. But maybe a little more research on your part may find a higher price still. But we always find the highest price we can and put a 40% mark-up on above that. So, we can run a sale or take offers up to 40% and not drop below what it last sold for.
This all may sound overly difficult but we do this to almost every item we ship because all of our invertory [about 2,000 pieces] are all porcelain, china, crystal, glass, pottery and most the size of a shoe box or larger. It is like a vacation to me when I get to ship something small and made out of wood or metal. Yippie, quick wrap, box with 50# brown kraft void fill and go.
Mike at MDCGFA in Atl.
- This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by MDC Galleries & Fine Art.
08/04/2019 at 1:36 pm #65847
Thank you all for the great responses! I appreciate all of the information here! I did see this on Chairish for $325 (no longer available). Not sure if or what it sold for.
I will def. prepack it and go from there listing it. THANKS AND HAVE A GREAT SUNDAY!
08/04/2019 at 4:17 pm #65853SigiliniParticipant
I know peanuts are not environmentally friendly but I get them gently used (so I am recycling) and they work great! They really hold things together so they are not sloshing around.
I have shipped a lot of breakables by simply making sure they well packed in ample peanuts with space or dividers between the items so they are not bumping each other. If needed I box the item(s) first and then use peanuts.
Recently I shipped a set of 250.00 crystal cups by simply boxing each one and then using peanuts.
I shipped six 11 x 13 framed prints (with glass) by taping the glass with blue tap, then wrapping each print in cardboard and then using peanuts between each item. Buyer said, “BEST packing on eBay! Coulda launched that baby into outer space!”
And of course I send a prayer up with each shipment that all will be well!
08/04/2019 at 6:35 pm #65862JayKeymaster
- Location: Virginia
We think its cool and would sell as a challenge since it has a fun story behind it. Give this vase another life 🙂
08/04/2019 at 8:35 pm #65873
Thanks for all the great tips everyone!
Jay, this is a REALLY cool looking retro vase, which is why I kept picking it up to look at at the garage sale. Unfortunately, our home is a 100 year old farmhouse with craftsman style and is full of antiques and craftsman furniture. This vase doesn’t go at all.
thanks again everyone. This is such a great online community. liz
- This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by catmom.
08/04/2019 at 9:59 pm #65878SharynParticipant
- Location: Central NJ
The vase looked familiar when I saw this post. My aunt gave me a picture frame from the same designer when I graduated college. After my college graduation photo got some kind of water damage, I put the frame away, and it has been sitting there for years. It’s the same brand. I wonder if it is worth something.
Mike – Could you look up this price in Worthpoint?
08/05/2019 at 7:56 am #65885
Here you go Sharyn:
Sold for $200.00 Sold Date Feb 03, 2017 Source eBay
Worthpoint Category Furniture & Furnishings
Original Category Collectibles : Decorative Collectibles : Frames
The spirit of postmodern design shines in the bold geometric patterns and vibrant colors of this frame by Fujimori for Kato Kogei Ceramics. Fujimori was born in Japan in 1935 and won the National Art Award when he was just 19. He would go on to win many major awards including the Grand Prix at the Nitten Exhibition (a major Japanese art organization). He worked in Chicago as a ceramics designer before returning to Japan in 1963. He was named Art Director for Kato Kogei Ceramics, where he oversaw the design and distribution of his signature line.
In excellent vintage condition. Dimensions: 7.5″W x 3.0″D x 8.375″H
Mike at MDC Concepts, Inc.
MDC Galleries and Fine Art in Atlanta
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08/05/2019 at 11:00 am #65901SharynParticipant
- Location: Central NJ
It’s going up!
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