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10/23/2017 at 5:55 pm #24347
Make sure to click the link and read the terms and conditions statement at the bottom right when creating a sale or promotion. Without saying anywhere on the pages used to create a sale, once you click launch, you are automatically becoming a part of Cross Promotions which puts all control of your sale and items in EBay’s hands while excusing them of having any responsibility for happenings pertaining to the sale.
http://pages.ebay.com/promo/terms/pricingpromotions.html#prmngr
Why is this a problem? Read the terms very carefully.
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10/23/2017 at 8:31 pm #24349
Wanna give us a hint? About the problem?
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10/23/2017 at 10:40 pm #24356
If you scroll up on the link from ebay that I attached, you will see the definitions of each type of activity. Based on my conversation today, as I noted earlier, anyone who creates a sale (even if you are using Markdown Manager which has a different format now) by clicking Launch is automatically locked into cross promotional selling. No where in the sale creation process is it identified that that is what you are signing up for. The only way of knowing is by clicking the link that says terms and conditions which is next to the launch button.
“Markdown Manager”: This tool, available to all sellers with active eBay Store subscriptions, allows you to create a sale price for your listing and compare it to your original price.
Markdown Manager
The terms in this Section 3 apply to your use of Markdown Manager, if applicable.
Revising the item price, shipping cost, or both for an item on the Revise My Item page removes the item from a sale.
Most sales are processed within an hour.
Items can be discounted 5% to 75%.In summary (as many of us know), this allows for individual and/or group/category discounts at a rate or value amount determined by the seller. The seller is in complete control of the discount pricing and the shipping and buyers can purchase one or more items and still receive the associated discount for that particular item.
As seen below (taken directly from the link attached), cross-selling does not afford the same control. Ebay takes control and can even assert (as its right) how much shipping will be charged. In addition, you waive your rights and indemnify ebay for anything that may go wrong.
Cross-Selling Functionality (“CSF”): The adjustment of the pricing of your listings when items are offered and sold to buyers as part of a cross-promotional offer. This means that you can offer buyers certain discounts when they buy certain items or a combination of items. The discount can either be a percentage or fixed amount or related to shipping costs. CSF may be available through Promotions Manager and may not be available on all eBay sites. This can be done with or without free shipping.
The “Related Items Offer” feature permits you to associate, based on an item’s stock keeping unit (“SKU”), a limited number of related listings in your inventory, at discounted prices, to the sale of a primary listing in your inventory, where the SKUs of the primary and related items are not identical to one another. For example: a discount of $50 (or a percentage) off of the purchase of a camera lens (a related item) when purchased with a camera (the primary item).
The “Order Size Offer” feature permits you to offer a discount off either all of your inventory, a specific category of your inventory, or a selection of SKUs in your inventory, once your buyer’s order reaches a designated quantity or monetary threshold. For example:
“Save $25 when you buy 3 or more items.” Buyer saves a dollar amount (or, alternatively, a percentage) off his or her order when he or she buys a certain number of items in the same order.
“Save $25 when you spend $100 or more.” Buyer saves a dollar amount (or, alternatively, a percentage) off his or her order when he or she spends a certain amount in the same order.
“Get 1 free when you buy 4 or more.” The price of the lowest-priced item is discounted from your buyer’s order when he or she buys a certain number of items in the same order.Discounts will be applied to each item purchased as part of a cross-promotional offer on a cost-weighted basis, prior to the addition of shipping and handling costs and any applicable taxes, and will be invoiced to buyers within the “Order details” page accordingly.
For example: The discount for a Related Items Offer of $50 off the purchase of a camera lens (a related item regularly priced at $100) when purchased with a camera (a primary item priced individually at $900) would be applied and invoiced as, follows:
Camera’s cost-weighted discount: $50 x ($900/($900+$100)) = $45. The camera’s discounted price would be $900 – $45, or $855.
Camera lens’s cost-weighted discount: $50 x ($100/($900+$100)) = $5. The camera accessory’s discounted price would be $100 – $5, or $95.The discount for an Order Size Offer of “Save $25 when you spend $100 or more” on the purchase of a jacket (otherwise priced individually at $50), a shirt (otherwise priced individually at $30), and a tie (otherwise priced individually at $20) would be applied and invoiced as follows:
Jacket’s cost-weighted discount: $25 x ($50/($50 + $30 + $20)) = $12.50. The jacket’s discounted price would be $50 – $12.50, or $37.50.
Shirt’s cost-weighted discount: $25 x ($30/($50 + $30 + $20)) = $7.50. The shirt’s discounted price would be $30 – $7.50, or $22.50.
Tie’s cost weighted discount: $25 x ($20/($50 + $30 + $20)) = $5. The tie’s discounted price would be $20 – $5, or $15.The discount for an Order Size Offer of “Get 1 free when you buy 4 or more” on the purchase of four video games (otherwise priced individually at $20 each) would be applied and invoiced as follows:
Cost-weighted discount for each video game: $20 x ($20/($20 + $20 + $20 +$20)) = $5. Each game’s discounted price would be $20 – $5, or $15.In this example, the total discount to the buyer would be $20, which equates to the individual undiscounted price of one of the games. However, where the items in this type of Order Size Offer vary in price, the total discount to the buyer would be the undiscounted individual price of the least expensive item in the offer, which would be distributed on a cost-weighted basis to each of the items purchased by the buyer as part of the offer.
All items sold as part of a cross-promotional offer that provide the same shipping service should be grouped together as a single order. eBay may, in the future and in its discretion, limit the amount that sellers may charge for shipping and handling of items when they are sold as part of a cross-promotional offer.
For Related Items Offers, eBay may, in its discretion, choose not to display related listings as part of a Related Items Offer when the related listings do not offer free shipping. For items sold as part of an Order Size Offer, the shipping costs of individual items will be aggregated.
For items purchased as part of a cross-promotional offer, the returns policy specified in each individual listing will apply to the return of each respective item. If your return policy for an item permits returns, the item price that you reimburse your buyer must at a minimum be the cost-weighted discounted price of the returned item. For purchases eligible for refunds under the eBay Money Back Guarantee, eBay will treat the cost-weighted discounted price of an item (including any applicable sales tax) as the “full cost” of that item. In addition, for Order Size Offers where your buyer returns one or more items comprising the order but where the buyer received a “free” item as part of the offer, you must permit your buyer to keep any unreturned items at their cost-weighted discounted prices.Promotions Manager is available for use in creating cross-promotional offers on certain eBay sites only, including eBay.com, eBay.co.uk, and eBay.de. Only live listings created on these eBay sites and in certain categories are eligible for inclusion in cross-promotional offers. eBay may, in its discretion, expand or limit the ability of buyers to redeem cross-promotional offers. For example, only Related Items Offers created with Promotions Manager on eBay.com and consisting of items listed on eBay.com will be available to buyers on eBay.com. Also, only Order Size Offers created with Promotions Manager on eBay.com and consisting of either (a) listings created on eBay.com or (b) listings created on other eBay sites but offering worldwide shipping to buyers on eBay.com will be available to buyers on eBay.com. Buyers must pay with PayPal in order to redeem cross-promotional offers.
eBay retains the sole discretion to decide where on the eBay site cross-promotional offers will be displayed to buyers, if at all, and to explain to buyers, in any manner of its choosing and in any location on the eBay site, what cross-promotional offers are and how they operate. eBay also retains the sole discretion to display or not to display any or all of your inventory as part of a cross-promotional offer, for any reason, with or without notice to you, as well as the discretion to display or promote the inventory of other sellers on any part of the eBay site as it so chooses, including the View Item page for any of your listings.
eBay will have the right, but not the obligation, to change the features or functionality of Promotions Manager at any time in its sole discretion, with or without prior notice.
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10/23/2017 at 10:57 pm #24358
I guess I’m pretty obtuse, I’m not really seeing a problem here.
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11/09/2017 at 6:59 pm #25348
Just a reminder that if you create a sale, the only sale option you are opting into is Cross Promotional eventhough it does not say it anywhere expect for in the legal jargon available once you click on Terms and Conditions. The terms and conditions for Cross Promotional Sales are different from Mark Down Manager – please see above.
I just spoke to an eBay rep who confirmed that Cross Promotional Sales are the only option. While benefitting eBay’s bottom line, this could negatively effect your bottom line. Using Cross Promotional gives eBay much more control over the elements involved in having a sale and takes away choices. If having choices of how you create and implement sales taken away from you does not work for you, call eBay and let them know.
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11/09/2017 at 7:08 pm #25349
And again, I’m still not seeing the problem. You say: “. Using Cross Promotional gives eBay much more control over the elements involved in having a sale and takes away choices” Which elements? To me, there are three main elements to a Sales Event/MM: duration, which items to put on sale, and amount of discount. Whether the sale itself is cross promoted or not, I still make those choices, not ebay.
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