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Another difference—these will appear at the very TOP of the search results page….Promoted Listings don’t get that kind of placement.
As to perma- sales, here’s my guess. eBay is worried about possible lawsuits for fictitious sales. The 14 day rule does a fair job of showing ebay is making an effort to ensure compliance. Of course, as you note, a seller using GTC could run perma sales now that they’ve altered the rule. However, I think what we’re going to see in the near future is something similar to what we’re seeing in the beta I mentioned: eBay is essentially going to say each seller is responsible for compliance with the laws. This is from the beta’s FAQ:
“How do I choose my headline? What are the best practices?
Select the appropriate text from the dropdown. Complete the headline by either inserting the sub-category name or customizing your text to make it more relevant (total character limit for a headline is 40 characters).You are responsible for complying with all applicable laws, including truth-in-advertising laws. Please review guidelines and FAQs from the Federal Trade Commission.”
(If wording like that isn’t already in the User Agreement, I’m betting it will be….)
Might have been my screw up…I might have put it into edit? Not sure?
Hmmm, I thought I posted two replies, one quite a bit longer…it’s vanished?
Oh, and I also suspect they backtracked because they finally figured out what I tried to tell them the day of the Seller Release, when they first dropped this on us. During the sale, my original price is there for all the world to see….there’s a strike- through through it, it’s discounted, but it’s there. So at no time during the sale have I actually altered the ORIGINAL price. When the sale is over, it automatically reverts to the price it was when the sale began.
Jay,
You list an item for $10 , it must sit at that price for 14 days. On Day 15, you can put it on 20% Off sale. You are running your sale for 7 days. Sale ends on Day 21. Whether it is a 30 day listing or GTC, you can put it back on sale on Day 22, for another 7 days. Sale ends on Day 28 of a 30 day listing. You could put it on sale on Day 29, for another 7 days, but listing will end on 30th day, before the sale ends. Now you relist, and…must wait 14 days because it is a new listing.
With the GTC, everything is the same, except that when you list it on Day 29, it will renew after the 30th day, and will remain on the sale because it has renewed with the same item number, it is not considered a new listing.
Hope that makes sense.
Simon (and others), Just to be clear, this is not a FULL policy reversal. Please read my posts above to be clear on what has changed and what has hasn’t.
I asked about the value of GTC, and there’s the reply I got:
“Hi @my-cottage-books-and-antiques, that’s a good point! Good Til Cancelled listings is the best route to go if you want to place items on sale frequently. While these listings do renew every 30 days, it does not count as a new listing or relist, so items can be placed on sale anytime (as long as there wasn’t a recent price revision).”
Oh, and because I know Jay will ask LOL, here’s the link to the announcement itself, tacked to the top of the ebay Selling Board:
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Markdown-Manager-Update/m-p/28694630
For background, here’s the question I asked ebay back when the 14 day rule was first announced:
“Just trying to figure this out. How will this work ?
I list ten items, as 30 day FP listings.
I wait 14 days, never altering price or shipping, and on 15th day put them on a 3 day MM Sale. The original price is still shown to buyer, albeit with a strike through. Sale ends, 2 have sold. I wait a couple days, and then put the remaining 8 on another 3 day MM sale.
Can I do that? At no point did I actually edit the listing to change the price, I simply used MM. So, I can wait 2 days and use MM again, or , because the listings were part of a MM sale, must I wait 14 days?’This was the answer I got back then:
“Thank you for the inquiry. 14 days at the same price also includes 14 days since it was last on sale. So marking down and back up again constitutes a price change, therefore you’d have to wait 14 days to put the item on sale.”
So, AS OF TODAY, that answer is no longer true. eBay has listened to sellers, and the answer would now be: “Yes, you can put them on sale without having to wait 14 days (assuming you have not made any price changes.”
I need to think this through when I have more time, but at least at first glance that would seem to indicate that a GTC now has FAR more value than under yesterday’s rule.
This just in LOL—-
Hi @etel, @my-cottage-books-and-antiques, @dhbookds, @coffeebean832, I’m happy to let all of you know that because of the feedback we heard from members of the Community, we no longer require 14 days after an item is removed from a markdown sale before it can be placed on sale again. Please go here for more information
And here’s the “announcement”…poorly worded as usual:
In the 2018 Summer Seller Update, we announced new changes to requirements for creating a markdown sale event that went into effect on June 25, 2018. We listened to your feedback and have made a change to these markdown sale requirements. Sellers can now add items to a markdown sale event even if the listing was previously in another sale event within the past 14 days as long as the listing price has not been changed.
the GTC advantage is pretty limited. A MM sale can run 45 days, max. So, compare a 30 day non GTC listing and a GTC listing.
After 14 days have run, you can put the 30 day listing on a 45 day MM sale. However, after 16 days have gone by, the listing will end, and it must be relisted. The relisted item cannot be added back into the ongoing sale because it must sit for 14 days at its set price.
After 14 days have run, you can put the GTC listing on a 45 day MM sale. After 16 days have run, it automatically relists with the same item number, and STAYS in the sale (until the sale ends or it sells)
I haven’t fiddled around with other MM durations, but I would think for shorter duration MM sales, there is not a big advantage (if any) in using GTC.
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MyCottage.
07/03/2018 at 6:48 pm in reply to: eBay apologizes for technical issues that "may have impacted" sellers #44356Some people were having trouble with photos not showing in GTC listings.
There was a false Seller Status alert that some people saw.
Pretty sure there were a few other things as well. Not everyone was effected by every glitch, which is why they say “may” have impacted.
Steve, I’d guess it’s tied to eBay’s Small Business initiative in Akron, “eBay Always Open”…
Jay,
This has been a problem at eBay since I’ve been a seller, and that’s 20 years or so. I have NEVER understood how this company can do such a poor job of communication. They needlessly anger and worry sellers, and they waste everyone’s time, including their own CS folks, because they simply refuse to deal with this stuff pro-actively.
Whatever they get right pales in comparison to this one thing that they constantly get wrong.
Even after all these years, it still amazes me. I mean, I EXPECT it, I have little hope for change, but it still amazes me that a major corporation can’t do an even half decent job of communicating this stuff.
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