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Antique Frog.
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11/26/2020 at 10:38 pm #83739
Hey scavengers!
For those of you who use cash, should set aside the 1982 and older pennies and list them when you have a few rolls.
I’ve noticed that people are buying well more then face value! Cash is king 🙂
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11/27/2020 at 4:08 am #83741
They’re 95% copper and 5% zinc. Weight 0.11 ounce, allowing for wear 10 cents to an ounce, you need roughly 169 cents to get a pound of copper.
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11/27/2020 at 9:40 am #83745
Why would pre-1982 pennies be valuable? How valuable are we talking?
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11/27/2020 at 11:12 am #83747
Scrap copper. British “copper” coins moved from bronze to copper-plated steel back in 1992, and there was the same rush to hoard the older coins, using a magnet to weed out the steel ones.
Pure copper price is about $3.30 now, I don’t know what the scrappers pay in the US, but in the UK it’s about $2.50 a pound for 98% pure copper. So assuming you’d get paid $2.40 for your 95% copper coins there’s a margin of 65 to 70 cents.
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11/27/2020 at 11:29 am #83749
I’m sure you can find unscrupulous recylcing centers, but it is illegal to melt or damage US currency: https://encorerecyclers.com/penny-scrapping-controversy/#:~:text=As%20many%20scrap%20metal%20enthusiasts,face%20value%20in%20scrap%20metal.&text=However%2C%20melting%20these%20pennies%20down,for%20scrapping%20at%20this%20time.
However, melting these pennies down is illegal, meaning that they are not viable for scrapping at this time. Despite this, many scrap metal and coin collecting enthusiasts collect copper pennies, hoping that the ban on melting them down will be lifted in the near future.
So maybe people are just hoarding.
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11/27/2020 at 1:14 pm #83750
Ya I read somewhere few years ago about people who think they’d lift the ban . But who really knows if they ever will. Figured based off the sold listings on eBay I’d set aside them and make a little more than face value.Figured it was worth passing on this.
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11/27/2020 at 2:13 pm #83751
My husband has been collecting 1980 and earlier pennies for their copper content from before I knew him (over 25 years). Should I tell him that his time has come? Or perhaps the ROI isn’t there yet?
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11/27/2020 at 2:22 pm #83752
<p style=”text-align: left;”>@sharyn wow! He’s probably got way more than I do, ha.</p>
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11/27/2020 at 3:31 pm #83754
The UK government prohibits the melting of any coin “which is, or has been, current in the United Kingdom after 16th May 1969 (on that day, Parliament approved the Decimal Currency Act).” The currency went decimal on 15 February 1971, so that ruling covers every British coin except groats, angels, nobles, farthings, half-farthings, quarter-farthings and anything them Romans left behind. Bizarrely the ruling doesn’t seem to cover gold sovereigns, because although they’re minted every year they’re not legal tender.
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11/27/2020 at 4:37 pm #83763
Metal hounds are so interesting to me.
So a US penny is worth 1-cent. How much copper is it worth if you could recycle it?
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11/27/2020 at 8:49 pm #83766
$2.40 divided by 169=1.42 cents. That’s an estimate based on a guess at the scrap price taking into account the 95% purity of the coin.
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11/27/2020 at 9:03 pm #83767
Fascinating. No wonder why US pennies are now just made from aluminum or some light weight material.
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11/28/2020 at 9:03 pm #83781
I have not been posting but still browse and saw this come up…
An ambitious individual could buy a couple of Ryedale coin sorters, order pennies in bulk from banks, they come in $50 boxes, run them through the machines and sell as “unsearched copper pennies” by the pound on ebay. Any non coppers could be redeposited at another bank. Rinse and repeat.
Would you go crazy with the sound of plink plink plink plink for hours on end, absolutely! Could you make a nice return on your money invested with basically zero risk, yup….
Here’s a guy doing some volume, 30 bucks of pennies selling for $84 plus shipping…
Happy holidays all!
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11/29/2020 at 4:23 am #83784
Would you go crazy with the sound of plink plink plink plink for hours on end, absolutely!
I was wondering how the seller sorts the copper pennies from the zinc ones- turns out they make slightly different sounds when they’re dropped on a hard surface. If that’s the method they use, they probably also have a sideline in ASMR videos, made in the soundproofed cellar their spouse has made them live in.
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11/29/2020 at 1:10 pm #83805
Interesting idea in the abstract. Would a bank sell you unlimited amounts of bulk pennies? Could you buy 1 million of them over a year?
But as we’ve said, you cannot currently recycle copper pennies right now so it’d be a long play.
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11/29/2020 at 12:26 pm #83803
Antique Frog, you can use a coin sorting machine. There is a slot where you put an example coin, say a newer zinc based penny , load up the hopper on top with pennies and the machine will separate the newer from the older copper based coins by spitting them out two different shoots. It does that incredibly quickly. A few videos out there on youtube for “Ryedale penny sorting”
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11/29/2020 at 3:19 pm #83806
Interesting- looks like it can handle different denominations of coins, as it compares against a sample. Here in the UK the copper coinage went to copper-plated steel, so coin hoarders just use a magnet.
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11/29/2020 at 3:37 pm #83808
My first thought was not that people are buying copper pennies in hopes of someday being able to melt them down, but to make countertops, backsplashes, floors etc. using pennies and resin. Maybe it looks nicer with the real copper pennies.
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11/29/2020 at 10:43 pm #83821
Seen photos of a couple of cars done that way- one with pre-decimal pennies and the other with cents.
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11/30/2020 at 3:48 pm #83838
Pre-1982 pennies are also valued by people that collect smashed or elongated pennies. The newer pennies smear when put through the machine so you get this unpleasant silver streaking marring the pattern. Earlier pennies look better as they have a more uniform color when squashed. I keep a stash of early pennies for when I go on vacation to get a cheap souvenir. Squashed pennies are also collectible and can be sold – as always the earlier and rarer the better. Some command quite a bit of cash.
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11/30/2020 at 4:04 pm #83841
The hoarding of copper pennies is an example of Gresham’s Law.
per Wikipedia:
In economics, Gresham’s law is a monetary principle stating that “bad money drives out good”. For example, if there are two forms of commodity money in circulation, which are accepted by law as having similar face value, the more valuable commodity will gradually disappear from circulation.
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11/30/2020 at 4:19 pm #83843
There are other issues at work here.
1. National coin shortage
2. Talk of pennies being eliminated from minting.
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12/10/2020 at 10:48 pm #84165
I have a few hundred pounds of copper pennies hidden away. I have a Ryedale sorter. I have not done it in a while, but I would get 20-25% copper coins per box of pennies. I would buy a couple 25 dollar boxes of pennies from one bank, sort them, and return them at another bank. (I opened an account at a bank with a coin counter at 6 local branches to spread out the returns) besides getting copper, I would find 5 or 10 wheat pennies per box, and once in a while an Indian head penny. Sometimes a rare penny would show up. I was selling 10 dollars worth of coppers for 17 dollars plus shipping. I could go on but I don’t want to bore anyone. The beauty of it is I’m not really losing much by having them sit there, and I can always return them if I need he money…
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12/11/2020 at 9:32 am #84173
That Ryedale sorter is $500: https://www.pennysorter.com/buy-now You need to sell a lot of pennies to break even.
Sounds like it’s profitable if you are committed. Everything takes time and work. From my perspective, I think people just have fun sorting and treasure hunting coins. Like metal detecting.
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12/11/2020 at 3:21 pm #84181
Yeah this definitely says “hobby” to me much more than “profitable business venture”.
Kinda like doing all those crazy chemical processes to strip gold from old electronics.
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12/11/2020 at 4:11 pm #84182
Hoover up road dirt- there’s 6 grams of platinum in every ton. Alternatively, go straight for the source and remove catalytic convertors from parked cars. According to the police it takes a skilled thief less than a minute to cut one off.
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