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06/03/2020 at 9:39 am #78067
Hi! I need help w/ 2 things please. First, this heart in a box logo looks familiar to my husband. He thinks it might be a good brand that may have been popular years ago. The piece itself feels of good quality (heavy, well made). However, I can’t find the logo anywhere on the internet and don’t recognize it. Anyone know?
Second, embarrassingly, I’m super bad with determining materials. I originally thought it was all metal because when you tap it w/your nail, it makes the clank sound like a piece of tin would make (much heavier than tin though). However, upon further inspection, it appears to be glass surrounded by a gold colored stamped metal frame? Is that considered ceramic? Also, if anyone has any suggestions on good novice website on how to determine materials I would appreciate it. I try, I just suck at it lol.
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06/03/2020 at 11:03 am #78070
Can you show a shot of the side and the back. At first glass it looks like enameled inside of filigree. But the other photos will help to further identify.
Check this link out.
https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=enameled+filigree&client=firefox-b-1-d&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDqsW59OXpAhVNOs0KHQDwC60QsAR6BAgIEAE&biw=1304&bih=756scroll down and you will see a few boxes.
Then Google Wikipedia on enameled filigree and study up on the technique to compare to your item
Hopes this helps a little.
mike at MDC Galleries and Fine Art
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06/03/2020 at 1:27 pm #78074
My apologies if this is a duplicate, I’m having trouble w/my computer.
@MDC Galleries & Fine Art thank you for your help. I checked out the link you provided and did a wikipedia and google search for enameled filigree and it does appear to be what this is (thank you!).
To make sure that I’m understanding what I read correctly, the artist would create an object out of a metal, and then fill it with the colored enamel? And there is a slight possibility that they could have used actual gold to create the filigree, is that right? Thank you again for your knowledge and patience. I appreciate your help.https://imgur.com/CdXPInE
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This reply was modified 6 years ago by
imauniongirl.
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06/03/2020 at 3:03 pm #78078
Sure looks like a free hand filigree piece to use. This may have been a piece done directly on a leaf. The filigree rope work lightly layed into place and softly tack soldered to gether. I see some over lap at the ends. This would provide some rigid structure. The enamel is is liquid like glaze and dropped into place and spread with a brush between the thin rope like pieces. Very similiar to a leaded stain glass work.
Then once the whole skeletal filigree structure is tacked and held into place and the enamel glaze has spread out and cover the whole area, it is fired in a kiln at low temperature. In this process the leaf or even a wax paper support will be burned away.
The bottom side will have the enameled area almost flat with the filigree and the top side will have the filligree strand protruding up the highest. You may be able to see that with the naked eye or use a 10x power loupe or magnifying glass. Als a 6 power folding linen tester is great to carry with you all the time. We always carry a small black light, a magnet, a small 6′ locking tape measure and a 10x and 20x loupe with us in our small belt money pouch.
Of course the contour form could be done on any surface that would be easily burned off or peeled off. In the case of peeling the final dried piece the enamel could be liquid that air dries and no heat is involved.
A fine art jewelry maker would actually be better than us at explaining the more modern techniques used today.
And, I would imagine based on the thinness of it that the enamel is translucent-transparent and you can see through it when you hold it up to a window or light. If so this also would make a nice Holiday window sun catcher type of ornament.
As for gold, maybe a jeweler can tell you that or Ryanne or others has a chemical test to share with you for gold content.
Hopes this sheds a little more light on your search journey.
mike – mdcgfa -atl
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06/03/2020 at 9:35 pm #78088
Wow Mike, thank you so much! This is so fascinating and you explained it brilliantly. I will hopefully get better at identifying this type of stuff in the future!
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06/03/2020 at 9:39 pm #78089
Oh, and I’m totally getting one of those linen testers!
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07/10/2020 at 3:24 am #79300
It looks a like Cloisonné (said “cloy-zen-A”… or really close to it) to me. Though the wire partitions and boundaries usually don’t stand so proud of the enamel.
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