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11/14/2018 at 3:44 pm #51696
Hi everyone. A few months ago we copied our eBay store to a shopify website. Since then our eBay sales have almost stopped. We have about 1140 listings on eBay and about 800 on the website. We stopped adding new listings to the shopify store and those items are performing better on eBay.
We are guessing that google is penalizing both stores because they have the same items. We noticed the “Mirror Site” items don’t come up on Google search results.
Does anyone know more about this and a strategic way to handle it?
Thank you!!!
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11/15/2018 at 2:11 am #51722
This is one of the reasons we cancelled our Bonanza store. We did a little bit of research and came up with that Google sees the listings as duplicate and, thus, considered it spam and suppressed the listings.
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11/15/2018 at 8:10 am #51729
That’s interesting Joe. I think several memebers here including Jay and Ryann also closed down their Bonanza account. Ever since then I have been meaning to do the same with our account.
We also have a Shopify account but have been just using it as a “parking place” for a backup of our store. We never did or have submitted the Shopify store to get verified or submitted the site map to Google to crawl the site. Probably reading what you are aying it was a good thing. Between the Shopify store and Bonanza that would probably be seen as a triple duplicate of information?
So, guess I will take a few minutes and go and close out our Bonanza account and will make sure we don’t go live with the Shopify store.
Now what about cross listing on Etsy? We have 284 of our 1,132 Ebay items also cross posted on Etsy. I think the fact that Ebay and Etsy have their own internal traffic that Google is not as involved with the crawling of these platform stores and duplicate items would probably not be seen as such?
Mike at MDCGFA
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11/15/2018 at 8:12 am #51731
Hey Ryann, question. You did end your Bonanza account didn’t you. I think I read that you did.
We hardly ever get any activity from them. Only a couple of sales this year. But they are always synching up with Ebay and pulling every new listing into Bonanza.
mike at mdcgfa
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11/15/2018 at 9:04 am #51744
Yep, we ended our Bonanza store when they stopped correctly syncing with our eBay store. Bonanza was only useful for us when it was just an “automatic” store that needed none of our attention. Plus, we really only got 20-30 sales a year.
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11/15/2018 at 8:50 am #51736
I just checked one of my listing via google, both Truegether and Bonanza listings are in the picture ads at the top and the eBay listing is the first result.
You could try it out as well….
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11/15/2018 at 8:57 am #51740
yep we ended our bonanza store. there were a ton of glitches with scheduled listings showing up there when they were not yet public on ebay. they had no way to fix it, it was really annoying.
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11/15/2018 at 9:08 am #51745
For us, most of our eBay sales come from searches done on eBay. Google has very little affect on our store as far as we can tell.
–What an example your exact numbers fro before Shopify store and now? Did your eBay sales actually stop completely?
–Why did you start a Shopify store? Is it simply to avoid the 10% eBay fees 3.5% Paypal fees? Assume you still pay some kind of CC fees on Shopify. -
11/15/2018 at 9:45 am #51746
Jay and Ryann. I just closed our Bonanza booth. Did you also then close your account as well. I see it is a two step process. Close the booth first – DONE and the last option is to close the account. did you guys do both options?
mike at mdcgfa
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11/15/2018 at 11:18 am #51751
Hi Marconi, Joe and others…
I just saw this post and it has me worried – the part about google suppression of duplicate listings! I haven’t heard anything like this before so I am going to search for some more info but if anyone has additional experience with this, please share. I have a Bonanza Booth and YTD I have received 10 sales from it. I like having it… I have had no issues (Except once or twice I have sold hats “twice” before the Bonanza booth had time to “synch up” – I canceled the Bonanza sale and apologized – no big deal. I don’t have ink frog or pictures backed up – so I love having the Bonanza store as a poor woman’s “back up” – and I don’t use scheduled listings so that is not an issue for me. So what I really need to do now is figure out if the Bonanza booth is hurting my eBay sales – maybe I will unlist everything on Bonanza for a few months and see what happens? I’ll update later on what I decide to do….but appreciate anyone’s thoughts in the meantime!-
11/15/2018 at 11:46 am #51753
I’m not convinced that Google suppresses listings that are also on eBay, though the Original Poster (OP) said he couldn’t see his Shopify listings on Google. If we had some links we could help test his hypothesis.
Plus what OP said was that his eBay sales dropped which doesnt have anything to do with Google in my opinion. The majority of eBay sales come from eBay searches.
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11/15/2018 at 12:20 pm #51756
I think an even better question I should ask to Joe, Jay, Mike, and anyone else who has cancelled your Bonanza store – Did you notice any jump in your eBay traffic and sales after ending your Bonanza booth?
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11/15/2018 at 8:21 pm #51782
No difference in eBay sales when deleting our Bonanza account.
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11/15/2018 at 1:29 pm #51761
Like Jay, I don’t think google results really effect ebay sales, perhaps to a small degree as there may be people looking up stuff on google and when they see an eBay listing in the results they investigate further and decide to buy.
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11/15/2018 at 2:57 pm #51766
Thank you for your insights. We cancelled our Bonanza store also. It’s when I have the same listing, photos and numbers. It’s easy for Google to see and none of them are searchable. They don’t want the same item coming up many times in search results.
Our items are unique collectibles and usually search and sell through Google.
We just cancelled and re listed all 1149 eBay listings. eBay agreed to credit my account for the $114.90. Premium store extra listings are 10 cents each. Many of the listings were old and needed to be ended and sold similar.
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11/15/2018 at 3:18 pm #51768
Here is an article about SEO mistakes.
https://www.shoutmeloud.com/6-reasons-why-google-will-penalize-you.html
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11/15/2018 at 8:24 pm #51785
I guess that’s the answer. Google thinks you’ve created a website scraper for your eBay store (which I guess you basically did):
Mirror pages:
Duplicate pages with the same content are penalized by Google because users can reach more than once to the same information. Though 20-30% post duplicity doesn’t affect ranking, overdoing it, will make your blog/website look like a content scrapper site and Google might remove you from search.Just curious: Why did you start a Shopify store? Is it simply to avoid the 10% eBay fees 3.5% Paypal fees? Assume you still pay some kind of CC fees on Shopify.
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11/15/2018 at 10:48 pm #51786
Thanks for your responses. I also tried googling some of my listings and the ebay listings are coming up, followed by my Bonanza – so I have decided to keep my Bonanza store active for now – especially going into Christmas.. Marconi, thanks for sharing that article, interesting info about the content scrapper sites… I hope you see an uptick in your sales soon.
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11/15/2018 at 11:50 pm #51789
Hi Jay. We started the Shopify store to protect our listings in the event something happens to eBay. Also to promote our brand and save money on fees. I am going to redesign the website without the store. It will have links to the eBay and Etsy stores.
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11/16/2018 at 11:34 am #51806
Interesting conversation.
While most ebay sales are from ebay search, I believe that pretty much all of my Bonanza sales are from Google search. The buyers there almost all created their accounts the same day they bought my item. Then they never have activity again on the site. The only feedback I ever got from Bonanza was from a buyer that WORKED for bonanza. He also paid with Bonanza gift certificates.You can sometimes tell when an ebay purchase is from a brand new user. Those are likely the google search buyers. They are about as frequent as a Bonanza sale – maybe 1-2 a month.
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11/16/2018 at 3:21 pm #51818
We only have had about 2 or 3 sales per year with Bonanza. And the printing of their labels at times messes with our printer and we have to change settings, then change back for Ebay-Etsy.
Also Bonanza messed with some of the WonderLister settings some how. Never understood what the tech guys were saying exactly.
And Bonanza gave us all sorts of badges but were always sending emails on how we could buy “Boost” programs to get more exposure, extra sales tools, buy a website store from them, on and on.
I just got rid of the bother of having to deal with it.
mike at mdcgfa
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