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04/27/2018 at 9:00 am #38461
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I was perusing CL late last night and came across a newly listed Edward H Bohlin clothing item. I’m a relatively new eBayer, and not the most efficient at research. The only Edward H Bohlin items I could find on eBay were money clips and belt buckles. There aren’t too many of those but they sell for jaw-dropping amounts. So I googled. Again…money clips and belt buckles. No clothing. Apparently, Bohlin is/was a saddlemaker, silversmith. So I’m intrigued by this clothing item. Anyone know anything about Edward H Bohlin clothing? Thank you.
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04/27/2018 at 10:18 am #38472
He was the Saddle maker to the stars. He also did a few custom clothing items. What article of clothing is it. I found a jacket and a cowboy hat both for $500 to $600 dollars.
Do you have a shirt, vest, chaps, pants, cuff protectors, spurs, ?? Without knowing what article you have it makes the search fairly broad. By using the article name in the search it will narrow it down and maybe I can find a few more hits.Mike at MDCG
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04/27/2018 at 10:32 am #38474
We want photos!
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04/27/2018 at 10:56 am #38476
Be careful on CL. “If it is too good to be true, it probably isn’t” applies more times than not on CL.
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04/27/2018 at 10:59 am #38477
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I’m embarrassed to admit this, but I’ve no idea how to get a photo from there to here. I tried to c/p it to the office app on my pc, and that was successful; but for whatever reason, I can’t get it to paste here.
So…I’ll describe it. It’s a leather, color-block bomber jacket. Has a rather large, in-your-face gold insignia on the front. Black, beige sleeves. Described as “unique”, barely worn. It does appear to be in excellent condition per photos, and a lovely jacket.
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04/27/2018 at 11:10 am #38480
Upload to https://imgur.com/ (free and no account needed).
Post link here.
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04/27/2018 at 11:20 am #38482
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Thanks for the warning. Actually, CL has been pretty good to me so far with the few purchases I’ve made. I’ve heard about the scamming, but if I meet in person and in public, I am probably okay? Say yes. ๐
I’ve just recently begun expanding my sourcing options, and am finding CL to be pretty interesting.
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04/27/2018 at 11:57 am #38486
A. Lyric,
I know many people have done it, but meeting someone from CL in person does not necessarily make it ok. I would offer that you do some reseasrch about CL – there is plenty online. In addition, make sure to read over their safety tips and warnings. Trust your gut. If something feels off, it is!
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04/27/2018 at 12:05 pm #38490
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Thank you, Jay, for this link. I did go to the imgur web site, could not “paste” the image there, either, so created an account and tried again. No luck. It’s me. I’m just doing something wrong, or not doing some obvious techie thing. I really need/want to know how to do this because I know it will be useful to me. I’m going to call on the more techie savvy in my life for help and can hopefully post an image later.
Re the “too good to be true” potential, she’s not giving this jacket away. She’s asking $150. The only reason I’m dwelling on it is because I cannot find it anywhere, which peaked my interest, and the Edward H Bolin items I did find carry sale prices not for the faint of heart.
And thank you to Mike! Very helpful and interesting input.
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04/27/2018 at 3:51 pm #38508
IF you google “Edward Bolin jacket” the CL listing is the first hit, for anyone who wants to see it.
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04/27/2018 at 5:56 pm #38516
I notice that the name in the listing title is “Bolin” but the jacket actually says “Bohlin.” If you search “Bohlin jacket,” there are several completed sales out there, including a Worthpoint one for the same jacket and a listing on liveauctioneers for a similar jacket in a different colorway which sold for $375.
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04/27/2018 at 7:31 pm #38520
Yes HabNab, it was the Worthpoint ones I was seeing.
Go to this link also and one can see several jackets. The highes being about $1,100 the next $900 on down to about $450. The $1,100 one says it was custom made for Burt Reynolds. Bohlin made saddles for the stars in Hollywood, so I guess some clothing also.
Here is the link:
https://www.worthpoint.com/inventory/search?query=bohlin+jacket&category=
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04/27/2018 at 7:33 pm #38522
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Yes, she misspelled brand names in all her posting titles. When I tried to find it on eBay this morning, I did type it in correctly spelled. I’m not familiar with the other platforms you mention. But your information is encouraging! ๐
Thank you.
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04/28/2018 at 9:20 am #38564
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Wow! Mike, that link is so so very helpful! Yesterday I didn’t know about Worthpoint or Imgur. I’ve been on eBay over a year, but there’s so much I don’t yet know. Limited participation on this forum is the closest I’ve come to any type of social media.
So! I am the grateful, fortunate kindergartener among reselling PhDs. And I’m…maybe… off to purchase a Bohlin jacket. Thank you, and Jay, and HabNab!
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04/28/2018 at 9:38 am #38568
Running an Ebay store is like playing a round of Golf. You may not have the best score number wise, but as long as you are always moving the ball forward, you know you are playing the game correctly!
And don’t forget one of Jay and Ryanne’s mantras. .. ABL [Always Be Listing}. ๐ ๐
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05/07/2018 at 8:47 pm #39340
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I did get the jacket. I took a pic and managed to load the image to imgur. Now I’m trying to get it from there to this page. I’ve no idea if the link above will do anything beyond making me feel inept so my apology if the link is a dud.
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05/07/2018 at 8:58 pm #39343
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How cool. I thought the link would take you TO the pic, but…presto! Photography aside, it’s in pristine condition. I just wish I knew more about it and more about what to do with it and why I can’t find one on eBay.
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05/08/2018 at 1:19 am #39357
That’s a nice jacket.
Can you post a picture of the back of the jacket?
Maybe we can help you create the listing.
First things first.
Start with the labels.What do they say?
The name of the brand
The size of the jacket
What the jacket is made of
where the jacket was made
is there a year?what colors would you say the jacket is?
In addition to taking more pictures – like close ups, get measurements
length, armpit to armpit, sleeve length etc.If this is a really valuable jacket, you will want to make sure to send it in a box, priority, and with the highest level of insurance. In addition, I might offer that you require a signature upon delivery.
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05/08/2018 at 9:11 am #39384
Hey AdE.. The link provided in the first reply takes you to Worthpoint that has 3 of these lsited and sold. Check it out and maybe some of the data gleened from several of the sold listings will provide some of the data on your list, but probably not all of it.
here it is again…. https://www.worthpoint.com/inventory/search?query=bohlin+jacket&category=
mike at MDC Galleries and Fine Art
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05/08/2018 at 8:36 am #39378
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The brand tag says Edward H. Bohlin, fine apparel, Saddlemakers, Silversmiths. The jacket is an xxl. I think the color is a very dark navy blue with beige sleeves. I don’t see a date, but there is a tax number on the label which got my attention. I’ve never seen a tax number on clothing – ever – so I find that curious and a little weird.
Anyway, thank you, thank you for such a wonderful and detailed response!
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05/08/2018 at 12:52 pm #39401
Mike,
I see this exact jacket in Worthpoint but can not see how much it sold for because I am not a member. How much did it sell for?
A. Lyric,
You may want to do some research as to what a tax number means on a jacket. Maybe that gives it some validity which will substantiate pricing.Looks like you are ready to start your listing.
Please review the listing for this jacket in Worthpoint.
Make sure to closely inspect the jacket to see if there is anything about it that you may need to tell a potential buyer – stains, smells, marks, wear etc. You are going to want to make sure to be really knowledgeable and upfront about the full condition of the jacket.
I would offer that you use bulletpoints in your listing and not paragraph stlye when writing the description. You will loose people’s attention with paragraph style even if they are interested.
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05/08/2018 at 1:12 pm #39406
Here is a cut and paste from a Reply I did further up on this link on 4/27/18. I included the Worthpoint link.
Go to this link also and one can see several jackets. The highes being about $1,100 the next $900 on down to about $450. The $1,100 one says it was custom made for Burt Reynolds. Bohlin made saddles for the stars in Hollywood, so I guess some clothing also.
So the high one was $1,100 and the lowest was $450. His saddles go for a lot and one he did for Burt Reynolds also went for $46,000. WOW..
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05/08/2018 at 1:21 pm #39407
Mike,
That is really good info.
A.Lyric,
Looks like Mike has provided you with some perspective on pricing. If the jacket is in really good condition and labeled, I would price the jacket high with best offer. Watch how much interest you get.
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05/08/2018 at 5:22 pm #39436
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Yes, the Worthpoint link Mike provided is what gave me the courage to actually purchase the jacket. I don’t have a subscription to Worthpoint, so can’t read details, but it was very helpful to me.
But I’m a little nervous about it because I know so little about it and, apparently, there hasn’t been one sold on eBay since 2014…not sure what that means. I’ve tried researching tax numbers on clothing tags, but need to do some more, as I haven’t read anything helpful.Anyway, again, thank you both so much!
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05/08/2018 at 5:42 pm #39438
It might mean that Ebay is not the right platform. Maybe a auction house for higher end items. That $46,000 saddle probably was sold through Sotheby’s or another high end auction house. If u are close to one of them take it in or they also have web sites and for FREE you can send in photos and descriptions and they will let you know if it is something they would like to auction off for you. Saddle Maker to the Stars seems like a craftsman artist who may have some interest for them.
mike at MDCG
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05/08/2018 at 5:51 pm #39440
A. Lyric,
I agree with Mike. You may not want to push on this listing. If you have something that is worth a large amount of money (which is possible in this case), I would not list it until you have explored all avenues of information. I wonder if the tax number is because the jacket was registered and would be taxed upon sale because of its value. Registering something means it has value.
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05/08/2018 at 6:23 pm #39442
I agree with AdvenE: No need to rush. Take your time. Research and check sources. If this guy was famous and did work for the stars, does he have an estate. Are any of his relatives maybe interested in it. Is Burt Reynolds or his heirs maybe interested. Maybe that tax number can be back tracted. Maybe there is a museum of this guys stuff.
Who knows, just throwing out ideas along the lines of following AdvenE line of thinking.
mike at MDC Galleries and Fine Art
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05/09/2018 at 2:04 pm #39517
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It appears I have homework to do. ๐
I know zilch..nada..about auction houses. But once I figure out which auction house to send a photo to, the worst that could happen is they let me know they aren’t interested. I wasn’t going in that direction to start with, so I’m fine with that, and it will be useful information.
The guy who listed it on CL just said it was โuniqueโ in his listing, but offered no additional information whatsoever. When I paid him for the jacket, he said he had always loved nice clothing, particularly clothing everyone else wouldn’t be wearing. He didn’t elaborate and I didn’t press for details, although I was curious as to why he was selling it for less than he apparently thought it was worth.
Anyway, there’s no shortage of info on Edward H. Bohlin on the web. He died in 1980. Hopalong Cassidy, Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, Barbara Stynwick, various Hollywood stars, and their horses sported his stuff. The Emperor of Japan, European royalty were gifted with Bohlin crafted items so apparently his work was highly esteemed.
What I’ve learned thus far is that research is time consuming, not always fruitful, and you may end up with more questions than you started with. Most of the Bohlin stuff I’ve seen is western apparel you might wear riding a horse, or the horse might wear. But this jacket doesn’t look like it belongs and, although his name is all over it, I’m not sure he had a thing to do with it since his company is run by others now.
Can’t tell you how much I appreciate your time and your input! Thank you both so much. ๐
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05/26/2018 at 11:42 am #41015
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When it was suggested that I contact an auction house re the Bohlin jacket, I decided I would do that.
But when I looked at the jaw-dropping items auctioned for staggering sums at a couple of the auction houses, I felt intimidated and a little foolish. This jacket didn’t seem to fit at all. I didn’t rule out the idea, but I procrastinated.I read a lot about Edward H Bohlin while trying to learn more about the jacket, but just came away with the sense that this jacket was way off the beaten trail of his craftmanship, and certainly not โwestern-ishโ or like anything the Lone Ranger might have galloped off wearing. I doubt Bohlin himself had a hand in the jacket, but I did want to know how many were made and when.
Anyway, I decided to email the Bohlin Company in Texas on the off chance I might get a response and it might be helpful. I wasn’t really hopeful, but to my surprise I got a response right away from someone saying he was aware they had made some clothing items, and asking for photos. I forwarded photos and he sent an email saying he’d received them and would see what he could find out.
So. That’s Chapter Two of my Bohlin jacket saga. At this point I don’t know anymore than I did with my first post other than information is sometimes hard to come by. I’m hopeful for a helpful response from Texas later next week, but thought I would post this mini update just in case anyone is interested in whatever she did or found out about that Bohlin jacket. Which is pretty much nothing.
But I’m working on it! ๐
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06/03/2018 at 10:58 am #41567
I meant to say earlier — there’s no reason at all to be intimidated about contacting an auction house about your piece. Even the toniest auction houses have different levels of auctions, so just because they’re selling a Van Gogh for millions doesn’t mean they’re not interested in thousand-dollar pieces for their decorator-level auctions. And, anyway — what’s the harm? If the NYU/RISD art history student intern in charge of answering email inquiries doesn’t think your piece is interesting, you shouldn’t feel ashamed — nor should you feel like their determination is any kind of a final assessment of your object (or your personality!) — I inquired at Skinner about an absolutely amazing piece by a known Boston artist and was told “Meh, it might fetch $200” at auction. I later sold it on eBay to a Russian buyer for nearly $1000 (and paid less in auction fees, etc., to boot.)
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06/03/2018 at 2:23 pm #41576
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Thanks, Habnab. I’ve learned to always read your posts. ๐ I did feel a bit intimidated perusing auction house web sites! I know so little about them and how they operate, and my sense was that it can be a time consuming procedure. I thought I’d try the Bohlin Co. first, but I haven’t tossed out the auction house idea. The Bohlin Co. was very prompt in responding to emails, but I didn’t hear back from them last week at all and was reluctant to send a reminder email lest I make a nuisance of myself. But I’m going to this week. The purchase of these two jackets by the $5 bag sale lady was…just huge…and scary. So I’m pretty eager just to learn I didn’t screw myself, at least.
It’s so interesting to know the Skinner Auction House pooh poohed your item and you subsequently sold it for almost $1000 on eBay. Did you put it on auction on eBay? And how did you know it’s value or what to price it at?
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