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04/17/2018 at 4:41 pm #37865
I was wondering if buyers actually look to see what shipping options are available on a listing or do they just go with what is shown on the front “page” of the listing?
I always include shipping options for those that are furthest away from us since we are on the West Coast. But I wondered if buyers actually know those shipping options exist.
If they only look at the first option then they might think shipping is too high when in fact in might be a lot lower if they just open the details link.
Your thoughts?
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04/17/2018 at 4:55 pm #37867
We put the cheapest shipping option first. People who need it faster can choose the expedited option.
I’m not sure why any seller would put the more expensive shipping option first.
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04/17/2018 at 6:17 pm #37875
Jay, it’s not always possible to put the cheapest option first for all buyers. Regular priority might be cheapest for buyers that are close by, but I also might put a medium flat rate box option that would be the best option for far away buyers, but more expensive for close buyers. So these far away buyers will only see their best option if they go looking into other shipping options.
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04/17/2018 at 6:36 pm #37876
Fair enough. I guess there will always be edge cases. We put the cheapest shipping choice for the most amount of people.
I agree with Terri that eBay should show the cheapest shipping based on where the person is.
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04/17/2018 at 5:10 pm #37870
From a lot of the almost weekly if not daily questions we get a whole lot of buyers don’t look at much more than the title and price and a1 photo. Many don’t even know what blue links are, the words “more info.” or the blue arrows on their phones.
we get what color is this, what size, what is the material, where is it made, what is the size, everything that is in the item specifics, conditions are and the description. They just don’t see it or take the time to maneuver to any other data field.
So I doubt if a large majority of buyers click on a separate tab, and then look through multiple options.
One of the stated support reasons behind some sellers pushing free shipping, [like Danni Ackerman in her videos] is that buyers don’t want to do the math to even figure out what the items total cost is [object plus shipping]. They just want one, big total number, in one place and they are happy.
We have a quick cut and paste reply to any question that is asked about information we already have in the listing, as to how for them to use their cell phone app or computer to see their answer. Many times we get a second reply, oh, didn’t see that, or Oh, see it now, or cool didn’t know that, thanks that helps. DduuhhOHhh!
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04/17/2018 at 5:21 pm #37871
But then again, wife Susan just reminded me, we do get emails from people informing us about details we have incorrect on a listing we may have details included in. some lady was telling us in a long email where she was the president of an orgnization of a certain glass company and even used to work for the company and that we had our decsription all wrong and that it was not even produced by the company in question. She tore into our listing line by line, word by word. We just thanked her for the details, edited the listing down to a short description and went dark of course.
But point is, and many of us have seen it, is some buyers or better said Ebay Lurkers read every little thing and then let the seller know about it.
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04/17/2018 at 6:11 pm #37874
It’s a bit frustrating when you live on one coast or the other. In the case of a package that weighs 2-3 lbs., Priority Mail regular packaging is the least expensive for about 3/4 of the country. I put the MFRB as the second option as that’s cheapest for people on the west coast (I’m on the east), but I’ve never once had anyone in the furthest zone make that choice.
I wish there were some way for Ebay to show a shopper the least expensive of the two, based on their zone.
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04/17/2018 at 9:44 pm #37883
Yes, exactly as Terri says. I can start out with the cheapest to show first — which is what I do — but that option is NOT always the cheapest once you get to the East Coast. If I put the cheapest for the East Coast than the West Coast becomes higher than it should be — like a seesaw, it flips.
I was considering putting in a note somewhere obvious to check the shipping options… but will they read the note?
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04/18/2018 at 8:10 am #37892
I used to put shipping options on items. I never had anyone use the second option. I would even state in the listing that “west coast shoppers please consider my additional shipping options for cheaper shipping”.
So now everything gets USPS priority or 1st class. I use padded flat rate envelopes or regional A boxes where I can. Light weight items and clothes get 1st class.
Any heave items I list that would be cheap to ship USPS on east coast and cheap to ship FedEx to west coast, I now prefer to just use free shipping and bump up the listing price to include shipping. 9 times out of 10 a West Coast person will be the buyer on those items.
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04/18/2018 at 9:02 am #37900
When I shop on Amazon I always have the shipping options pop up to choose from. It’s part of the checkout process. Ebay should/could do the same. That way the buyer can see their shipping options on check out.
How often do you use Fed Ex Options? I have not yet found them to be cheaper than USPS, only on very rare occasions.
With UPS I have found that they appear cheaper until you get your bill and they added extra charges you were not aware of that did not come up on the checkout.
I have been using USPS only and I use calculated shipping for anything over 1 lb.
RE: FREE SHIPPING Being on the West Coast, it is true that when I put free shipping I get the East Coast buyers but then I am less competitive for the West Coast buyer because I have to jack up the price to account for the highest shipping rate. With calculated shipping I can be more competitive and undersell the East Coast sellers since my price plus shipping is cheaper for the West Coast buyer.
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04/18/2018 at 9:17 am #37904
I always use all or most of the 4 lines for shipping options. If less than 1 lb I start with 1st Class and then add Priority, PFRM, and local pick up. For books it goes Media Mail, Priority, maybe PFRM, local pickup. For regular heavy items it starts with Parcel Post, Priority, local pick up.
I live on the East coast and tried offering free shipping but always raised the price by the cost of shipping to West coast. Too many people wanted to make a low Best Offer that undercut the price increase. I went back to calculated shipping on most items so I could maintain a reasonable price.
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04/18/2018 at 9:24 am #37907
Yeah, free shipping seems to only make sense for small, light items. Calculated Shipping is really the most logical.
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04/18/2018 at 10:01 am #37910
Buyer behavior is unpredictable, often hilarious, and impossible to predict.
Have always used calculated shipping, have never marked it up, and used to offer a variety of options in the attempt to save people money by being “fair,” and only 1 out of 100 even seemed aware of the options. Example – Heavy, large boxes, almost always Fedex ground is a better option, but it is hard to explain or change once someone just clicks through.
Last year, thought I was being clever by offering Parcel Post first then “upgrading” to Priority because the eBay discount made Priority cheaper until I realized that it was costing me since seller fees come off the shipping charge!
Almost no one reads the instructions or offers in the descriptions, no matter how kind “feel free to choose the shipping method that works for you, contact me if you have any questions…. nothing except the occasional super annoying override GSP for nothing request,
So edited the business policies to only these 4 and select which listing gets which.
First Class with Priority upgrade option
Priority
Moderate Weight Parcel with Priority Option small handling upcharge
Large Heavy Priority with FedEx option and handling upchargeoh, and by the way, believe it, “free freight is a lie” (quote attributed to Jay & Ryanne)
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04/18/2018 at 10:08 am #37912
I’ve settled into just offering regular parcel post, unless an item is going to be for sure 1 pound or under, then First Class. There are always the oddball Priority mails mixed in. For most items, especially the lighter ones (I’m more of a one shot vintage toy seller), I will then ‘upgrade’ the package to Priority Mail after a sale, which works out cheaper for me with the eBay seller’s discount. It seems I pocket about $2-$3 on most packages (after the fee 😉), and the buyer gets a much faster service with built in insurance. Makes me look good, and I make a little extra $ on the sale. Win Win by any stretch, and NO, I do not pass along a couple of bucks back to the buyer!
When I start using the 3 Day Gauranteed Handling Time option, (for me it starts in May), I will loose some of this strategic upgrade money. I’m thinking the 3 day option will increase sales so that will more than balance the loss out. We shall see how that one goes. I’m eager to get an idea on how the 3 Day Guarantee Delivery is going for some of us. I’m barely accomplishing 1 day shipping. If I have a printer(s) issue, it’s bad, and seems to happen on 10 packages sold nights only! I may loose my TRS first time it appears. However I’ll be real interested to see how profit/loss goes while NOT being a TRS! That will be a forced experiment bonus, maybe just perhaps I’ll get over sporting the badge of TRS…we shall see.-
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04/18/2018 at 10:15 am #37913
Oh, and calculated shipping only, at least on eBay.
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04/18/2018 at 3:06 pm #37929
I don’t think they do. 🙂 I sell mostly clothes and last year eBay wanted me to offer priority. So on the items that could go first class I offered first class first and priority second. Then I started noticing ridiculous low best offers coming in and they were always with priority shipping selected. Even though I had first class first I wonder if eBay was auto selecting priority? I took priority off those lighter items and things are still selling just fine. Who knows?
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04/18/2018 at 4:16 pm #37931
The only time I find they look at the options is when they select a priority or overnight option – other then that, everyone wants the cheapest.
Out of my sales last year, I only had two “RUSH RUSH RUSH” items for buyers.
I’ve been tinkering in my mind with the thought of going to “included shipping” (I hate the term “free shipping” as well) and have an option or two for rush or international shipping costs as additional options.
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04/18/2018 at 11:18 pm #37954
Based on all the feedback on this thread it would seem that Ebay has some work to do to even out the playing field for all sellers.
Just to restate: Amazon has shipping options as part of the checkout process and you need to choose what you want before you check out. They also have a “might be qualified for free shipping” next to the cost. It would be great if Ebay had the same.
As it is right now, free/Included shipping does not work well for East or West Coast. But I can completely see how it might work for the Middle America states though.
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04/20/2018 at 9:39 am #38018
As a Buyer, I appreciate having several shipping options to choose from, so I offer that consideration as a Seller, typically offering the full 4 options for shipping, if it makes sense to the item. If it’s under a pound, I’ll only list First Class, to keep things simple. From there I add other options that make sense for the item – will it fit in a padded flat rate mailer, etc? I’ve stopped offering local pick up, as I’d rather just ship, and have had at least 1 Buyer mistakenly select this option, then email me 3 times and call my cell twice within an hour regarding the mistake and how to fix. I hate having that privacy line crossed through this selling medium. Ended up canceling the order to re-list/sell, and I’ve insisted on de-stupidifying listings and verbiage since then.
I don’t have disclaimer info or shop policies in my listings, just item info and occasionally the brief phrase “*Click on Shipping to see options and price points.” With just a few sentences of info, there’s a bit more chance it will all get read, and they can always email with questions. Which they will always do… 🙂
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05/18/2018 at 11:24 am #40279
I thought it was the buyer that was not looking for shipping options but it seems that EBAY does not allow them to SEE the options on the Ebay app!!!
I looked at my own items on the app and the shipping option link is not there! So what is the point of offering options if the buyer cannot even see them?
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